More on Stopping Mass Shootings

This is a repost from AMAC, (I am a member), but they do have great articles and this is one that shares my thoughts.  It is not the legal gun owner, but the bad guy with the gun.  and really no reason what so ever, to mess with the second amendment. 

AMAC Calls For ‘Rational Debate’ On Gun Control

gun control debateWASHINGTON, DC – Dan Weber, president of the Association of Mature American Citizens, has called for “rational debate’ rather than politically motivated rhetoric” regarding the issue of gun control.

“The murder of innocent children in our nation’s schools by mentally disturbed individuals cannot be tolerated.  Nor should it become political campaign fodder.  Yet that is exactly what is bound to happen in the next eight months leading up the 2018 Mid-Term elections,” says Weber.

In the wake of the tragic mass shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida, former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens escalated the politics of gun control by calling for the full repeal of the Second Amendment.

Weber describes Justice Stevens’ solution as an “absurdly extreme way to control the use of firearms.  Not to mention that it would be perhaps the first time in American history that our own government would be taking away a Constitutional right.”

A scholarly critique of the rationale for gun control showed that many of the reasons cited for the need of more onerous regulation of firearms are deceptive.  One of the criteria cited is the notion that “homicides are largely ‘crimes of passion’ committed by otherwise law‐abiding citizens not distinguishable from other people.  Therefore, control must be directed at all gun owners rather than select criminal subgroups.”

Says Weber, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which keeps track of gun deaths, has found that nearly two-thirds of death by firearms in the U.S. were the result of suicides, accidents and legal interventions.  He notes that homicides accounted for only 33 percent of deaths.

Law professor Robert Delahunty has a different take on the need for more stringent gun control.  According to Delahunty, “progressives claim that more regulation of guns will deter violence and promote public safety.”  But, he says, they demure when it comes to the notion of abortion control.  “The progressive position seems to depend on what kind of laws they are talking about.”

Weber points out that he is in “no way” condoning indiscriminate sales of guns, particularly to individuals who are potentially a danger to themselves  and to others.

“The emotional and mental stability of gun buyers should, indeed, be a factor in deciding whether to allow such sales.  But, in addition we need law enforcement to be more proactive.  For example, there was plenty of evidence to identify the intentions of the shooter in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School incident.  The FBI and local police had been informed of who he was and what he was capable of.  He was said to go around introducing himself by saying, ‘Hi, I’m Nick. I’m a school shooter.’  Yet, the authorities seemed to ignore the threat he posed.”

More recently, however, police in Lexington, KY got an anonymous tip that a local high school student was threatening to shoot himself and others at his school.  The youngster had recently posted social media pictures of himself with a gun he had recently purchased.  Little time was wasted in obtaining a mental health petition apprehending him.

“Instead of disregarding the right to bear arms granted by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution, instead of targeting legitimate gun buyers and sellers, let’s focus on the reason for the mayhem.  We should be concentrating on the mental health aspects if the issue by finding ways of identifying those with problems and intervening and preventing further atrocities as school shootings,” according to Weber.

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Helicopter Protesting

 

Reblogged from the federalist.com (http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/28/march-lives-just-helicopter-protesting/

 

The March For Our Lives Was Just ‘Helicopter Protesting’

In a triumph of helicopter parenting, the ‘student-led’ March for Our Lives protest turns out to have been mostly organized and paid for by adult activists.
Robert Tracinski

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The big “March for Our Lives” pro-gun-control demonstrations last weekend are being touted as the defining moment of the late millennial generation. Much as I like to think ill of millennials, second only to thinking ill of the Baby Boomers, such projections are unlikely to be true because, as Dave Marcus points out, they weren’t true of the Boomers, who were not defined by the hippies and went on to vote for Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

“Neither of these generations, and in fact no generation at all, is defined by…media-hyped paradigms of what they think and do.” That’s especially true when we discover more confirmation that this spontaneous student activism isn’t so spontaneous, after all.

First of all, the numbers are in for the weekend rallies, and the crowd size is estimated at 200,000. That’s comparable to what we had in DC for the big Tea Party rally in September of 2009. It’s probably smaller than the nationwide Tea Party demonstrations in April of 2009. Perhaps a more direct comparison would be the almost identically named “March for Life,” an annual anti-abortion rally in DC that peaked at 650,000 people a few years back and regularly brings in protesters in the hundreds of thousands. And this is without the benefit of weeks of free publicity provided by the national media.

But these protests had the benefit of more than just free media. Under a carefully neutral title, “In Gun Control Marches, Students Led but Adults Provided Key Resources,” The New York Times basically admits that the marches are astroturf—artificial grassroots.

Although the events, which together drew hundreds of thousands of demonstrators across the country, were inspired and often led by students, many protests simultaneously benefited from groups with more financial resources and organizational skills than the teenagers had on their own….

Everytown for Gun Safety, which was founded and financed by Michael R. Bloomberg, the billionaire and former New York mayor, proudly declared that it had doled out more than $1 million in grants to local organizers. A nonprofit led by former Representative Gabrielle Giffords and her husband, Mark Kelly, arranged for more than 200 people from the Parkland area to attend Saturday’s march in Washington, and said it had worked with the owner of the New England Patriots, Robert Kraft, to use the NFL franchise’s plane to bring some people to the capital….

‘Our mission was to give them the biggest megaphone possible,’ Shannon Watts, the founder of an Everytown-affiliated group, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, said on Sunday.

There’s a lot more of this sort of thing in the report, but it’s all summed up in this amazing statement:

‘The kids did everything,’ said Jenn Hoadley, 36, who helped students organize a march in Anchorage. ‘All I did was say, ‘You want a stage? Cool. I’ll find one for you. You need a sound system? Cool. I’ll find one for you. You want to march in the park? I do paperwork to help you get that done.’ They planned it all, and they should be given credit for that.’

“The kids did everything” ends up meaning that they expressed their preferences and adults swarmed in to do all the actual work. Plus, in the words of another local student “organizer,” the adults “were paying for everything.” As we usually do. Oh, and all the angry rhetoric about politicians being bought and paid for by the National Rifle Association? That was spoon-fed to them, too, by a Parkland teacher whose “government” class apparently spent a lot of time railing against “special interests” and not much time on the Constitution.

I don’t blame the kids for this, not primarily. They are responding to a perfect storm of two big trends among the older generation. The first trend is the rise of protest culture, in which your entire personal and political identity are supposed to be tied up in which protests you attend. Combine that with helicopter parenting, in which parents are so eager for their kids to enjoy success and a wide range of experiences that they hover over the kids and hold their hands the entire way. I guess we could call this helicopter protesting.

This isn’t new. It’s a phenomenon I observed during campus protests a few years back, when the president of Claremont McKenna college announced “I’m holding a sit-in in my office.” As I wrote, “Today’s students are so coddled that they no longer have to make the effort to take over university buildings. Their elders will take it over for them. It’s like a weird kind of helicopter parenting: ‘Here, let me rebel for you, sweetheart.’”

Similarly, one education reformer observed the irony of the recent anti-gun school walkouts, “protests” that were effectively sponsored by the school’s own administration. “If students have permission to walk out, it’s no longer student activism at all. It’s a field trip.”

I have no doubt that the some of the kids from Parkland and elsewhere will do amazing things some day. Some of them already have, but they’re not here to talk about it. The rest will go on to accomplish much in their lives, eventually. But they will start to do that only after they emerge from under the protective wings and ideological influence of their teachers and parents and decide what they think on their own. Then maybe some of them will dare to launch protests without the permission and support of their elders.

Robert Tracinski is a senior writer for The Federalist. His work can also be found at The Tracinski Letter.

A Lot of Talk

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Of course, this is my opinion, the name of the blog “Bob’s Opinion,” should more than indicate that it is my opinion, my studied opinion but still an opinion. It is where I am able to say what is on my mind, what I think and what I believe. It is an “op-ed” journalism post of opinion. Now, with that said, we need to get on with this post “A Lot of Talk” part two, being pro-active in stopping mass murders, (mass shootings, or any shootings), and make it possible to restore the second amendment rights of the citizens of our nation.
Every time there is a shooting the knee-jerk reaction of the left wing is to stage demonstrations and fake news journalism to attack the second amendment and the right to bare arms. More gun legislation, and gun seizure. All this before the mainstream media hacks are giving their impersonation of a forensic autopsy and a complete dissection of the incident, and the shooter. Meanwhile the mainstream media and liberal politicians are pimping the tragedy.
A lot of talk as far as any serious measures to stop this madness of terror and slaughter of our innocent children and young people. We need action, and not more milking and pimping such an evil tragedy. If the amount of money that is spent by the left-wing radical activists and put it to work in PREVENTION we might get something done to secure the safety of the people.
The things that the shooters have in common is that they have some degree of mental or personality dysfunction; in other words, they are crazy as a loon. Okay some degree of personality dysfunction that creates a sociopathic or psychotic behavior trait that is really quite volatile, and we don’t want a meltdown episode. That is when they become violent and plan and execute mass murder. We need to be able to stop them from killing people especially children and young people. Another common trait is also a common trait found in terrorism, absolutely no value of human life.
There has always been those who commit mass murder, but not in the rate of occurrence that there is now. There is motive and triggers that need to be addressed, but, first the individuals or individual must be identified, and their threat evaluated, as mental dysfunction, criminal, terrorist, or just radicalized beliefs. and still within due cause and due process. However, as President Trump pointed out if we start with due process first, it could be the process that takes away valuable time, time that no one knows will end, we must assume the fuse has been lit and no one knows how long it will burn before BANG!
Don’t for one-minute think that all mental cases are dumb, no they are some mental people that are brilliant, able and have no fear. Four prerequisites for a planned attack. And of course, with the people that we are dealing with one thing is really not totally in place and that is the fear factor. Most will pick a soft target, it is easy and poses no resistance. Why do you think the socialists want to take our guns away? There will be no resistance during a mass takeover.
Nonetheless, the first obstacle is to identify the potential shooter or shooters. I doubt if strange behavior would cause enough attention to get reported as it now stands and most citizens would fear a lawsuit, it is coupled with identifying possible intent along with behavior. The police have a probable cause detainment at the present, it however, is only good for 72-hours at a psychoanalysis ward in the hospital. It is used for sociopathic and psychotic episodes and is to provide the patient with a period to reduce the acute anxiety or psychotic episode or to reestablish medication schedules, or detox, then to provide behavior observation, diagnosis, and proper prescription medication reaction. There is simple not enough time in a 72-hour sociopathic or psychotic observation, let alone the other areas of diagnosis, observation and treatment.

With the presumption that we need to identify the mentally ill and get them treatment, will not to rain on anyone’s parade, but, any one that will commit mass murder has a sociopathic episode if not a severe psychotic event, or a delusional or terrorists. This must be understood before they murder someone, but identifying the potential killer and the threat the individual or group individuals pose, is where it may get tricky.
It could be tricky because of the liberal shadow government fine-tuned by the Obama administration. That if the suspected shooter is Muslim, Black, Hispanic, or under the age of 21, the policy of hands off has been applied, or so it may seem. And the banning of profiling as a means to help identify a suspect was truly a means to block law enforcement from effectively doing their job. I remember how the MSM played Obama’s comment of the legal Mexican family out to get an ice cream on a Sunday afternoon being stopped and questioned by police, as his attempt to justify his lawsuit against Arizona and to protect the innocent from police harassment – Phooey! In reality it was his way of allowing more illegal aliens in to vote Democrat. But with those he also granted free passage to the Mexican gangs, and drug dealers.
It could get tricky because of what has been just a lot of talk in the press and all of it is postmortem. After the finger-pointing is all over with and the liberal press has used up its last fake witness and goes silent until the next mass murder. It has become so bad that it has to be mass murder by a semiautomatic weapon before it gets press.
The time has long passed to start working on preventing the mass murderer from killing his or her first victim. Before I get into my opinion of how-to procedures, I must address a couple of things that are so wrong with America today. If the wrongs are not addressed and solved there is no chance of doing a proper job of prevention. Like crisis counseling, or drug counseling, the first thing that must happen is light must shine on the wrong, unless a patient accepts the problem(s) anything done is only a Band-Aid. Here today, the patient is the American people and until we can shine light on the problems and accept them we will never be able to protect the second amendment or protect the public against mass murderers. We need to address our culture and what it has become. It does not mean “going backwards” like Hillary and Pelosi claim. Restoring our values and integrity is the starting point of healing our splintered culture. Insisting on what liberal’s institute as political correctness has done just the opposite of healing, it actually has brought more harm. Treating people with respect and dignity would have healed more of the divisions. But political correctness used as a weapon against conservatives is not only wrong but by necessity builds more hate and division.
Aside from liberalism our nation faces one of the greatest challenges in our history, and that is our splintered culture. How can we fix our culture when our people are so divided and under such strong evil delusions? How do we fix our smashed moral compass?
We must look at the mess we call our culture, the one that Obama bragged about as he apologized to foreign nations as he bowed before their kings and dictators. And tried to convince the people of the United States that America was something it was not. His infamous words were “and that’s not what America is about.” Before he was elected the first time he made the statement that Christians just wanted to poke along clinging to their Bibles and guns, then said to his liberal brainwashed imps “but that’s okay, we will push on without them – leaving them in the dust of history, and not into change.” Change to Obama was a Global Socialist Union.
Well Mr. Obama, you and the three who preceded you, along with corrupted politicians and the Deep State, are to blame for what is our present condition, and the blood of the people including the children is on your hands not the NRA or the guns. You and the liberal policies since the 1960s has finally came to fruition in the Obama administration.
Okay so now that we have placed the blame, and rightfully so, on the liberals and liberal ideology of socialism, we can look at the aftershock of it all, our nation has shattered its once proud culture that moral values, integrity, ethical practices and what was an advancing social unity. A nation that was teaching the three r’s and the fourth r is respect for authority, moral values in our homes, where kids were raised up respecting their parents and honoring them, they were raised understanding social values and decency, modest dress, and that there is a difference between males and females and how our culture has lost respect for our women, our values have been trashed by politics and liberalism.
Our value of life has been trashed through abortion, and senseless violent demonstrations. Our value of respect of others property has become a myth among the millennial liberal activists and “liberal community organizers” or as I prefer to call them conspirators against law and order, against anything decent. Since the 1960s the free thinkers have become more and more radical anti-American, pro liberal socialism as though they are under some sort of evil delusion, following yippy skippy after false heroes and a utopia promised, that can never be realized by a liberal socialist Republic.
One would seldom suspect that liberalism was festering like a big boil, since FDR, but it has, just, at times, it was more open than others, corruptness in our politicians and the actual race dividing “New Deal of Johnson and the Civil Rights Act of the Kennedy’s (Kennedy just didn’t live long enough to sign it), would produce such anti-American Activists such as Al Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson, but it has produced even worse in black and Hispanic racism against the Hinze-57 white man, where it is okay for celebrities and politicians to call for the killing of all white people, and if someone says the sky is blue, you are tagged a racist, where hypocrisy is the normal of liberalism. Obama’s policies over eight years has done more harm to our American culture than any other administration in history.
Folks, just step back for a moment and really take a look at the condition of our culture, then actually think of any bonafide reason that we should be astonished at such horrific evil as mass murders? We must admit that there is a problem with the mental dysfunction of all the killers. Muslim Jihad and Sharia Law, has encouraged, not only Muslim Terrorist, but all terrorists, to rape, kill, and destroy anything or anyone who don’t agree with them.
However, our American culture is not totally lost, and with the help of God we can regain our land and our people from the evil delusion that has perpetrated its evil into our millennial generation. We simply need to expose the evil heroes and replace them with real heroes with morals and integrity. The same with the politicians and celebrities.
Meanwhile, we need to be able to identify and nullify those with, or without, mental dysfunctions before they need to be a top priority of law enforcement on the local, state, and federal level and the subject of the media’s post mortem forensic analysis. Profiling is actually not a dreadful thing, and it does give results, while protecting everyone’s Constitutional Rights. It is a constitutional right for a citizen to live and to possess a firearm or firearms. It is not the authority of law enforcement to seize a firearm without due cause or due process, and there is where we have a problem in defining what is due cause.
Law enforcement should respond to all notifications of concern, in an investigative intent, first point of contact should be to make physical contact with the person making the report of concern, to establish if the concern is actually warranted. The second is to contact the subject or subjects of the concern. It is then the responsibility of the trained officer (and situation evaluation is part of officer training), if the officer determines the threat exists, then he should detain the subject for observation by a trained and equipped person or team, and a background investigation be performed as due process.
It is simple and does not require any more laws than are already exist, except the limit of 72-hours. 72-hours should be the minimum, and 120-hours limit for observation, then panel review to determine the mental instability and recommend no further action or treatment or should be held for further treatment, or placed on a watch list, with the subject’s behavior monitored. If the evaluation result be considered safe, then legal arms be returned, as due cause has been satisfied. If not, then due process needs to be acted on to permanently remove the firearms. Due process can be started in the courts at time of detainment with due cause.
I believe that this is just a jab in the dark opinion, but serious actions need to be taken to remove potential threats to the safety and wellbeing of the community. However, while getting the bad people and their weapons off the streets to nullify any threat, law enforcement must not be able to take away the 2nd amendment rights of any citizen. We need to nullify bad people before they have the opportunity to murder innocent citizens.
End sanctuary cities, end any amnesty for illegal aliens, create laws dealing with gang activities and gang associations, define terrorist groups and put them on a watch list. But it depends on restoring our culture to have any real long-term effect. We must do what we need to do while we fix our nation’s moral compass.
R.S. Helms … Bob’s Opinion.

A Lot of Talk

 

 

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The liberal press and the politicians in Washington DC are burning up the airways utilizing every communicating venue possible to pimp the evil tragedy of the Parkland, FL. high school. I have posted on Bob’s Opinion, an initial post on the crisis, (Culture not Guns), but since then I have reblogged numerous posts all about the gun, and the post analytical autopsy of the situation that seems to be normal in all mass murders. Just talk of what needs to be done about it, and it all comes down to more fighting over gun legislation.
It changes nothing, just adds another chapter in the growing volumes of failed legislation anti-second amendment gun control, in a bogus attempt at stopping the meaningless slaughter of our school children, and for that matter the slaughter of all our citizenry. It remains just a lot of talk, and no effective action.
First, we must understand it is not the weapon that may be used. It is the foundation of our American culture it is our Moral values, relating to our integrity, ethics and Christian principles plus more as we enumerate them, even sparking something as a light in the dimming canyons of our minds. Nonetheless, one cannot expect our American culture to be what it was even 40 years ago, as the decaying effect of evil has slithered forth, mostly unnoticed, until the past four Presidents. (yes, I said the last four, plus the several before them).
During the 1960s, the government put themselves in the position of taking on the personal responsibility of the masses, (people), it basically was a great power grab that started the establishment of a powerful shadow government, infesting the over-indulging bureaucracy who creates regulations that become the same as the laws of our nation. It is the shadow government that has the real power and assumes, through that power, the personal responsibility of the people.
People who still take their personal responsibility seriously, are the ones that hold on to their moral values, integrity, and religious principles. These are the American citizens who are patriotic, who are proud to be American, they respect the flag, our anthem, and to honor our military men and women, and see to it that our veterans are properly taken care of.
Americans who have personal responsibility, understand the reality of a key factor of our freedoms. “With freedom comes responsibilities, with responsibilities comes accountability.” It is the people’s responsibility to hold the corrupt lawless politicians, celebrities, news media, and the shadow government accountable for what they do and say.
Gun control laws is not going to stop anyone from killing, and it is not within the power of Congress to take any constitutional right away from the responsible citizen. The power of government is to hold irresponsible people accountable. And to stop irresponsible people from killing other people before it happens. That is the only responsibility required of government in view of gun control.
The corrupt politicians, celebrities, mainstream media, and protected liberal people groups, need to accept their personal responsibilities and professional ethics or be held accountable for how they act, what they say, and their general attitude of being above the law. And they need to be held accountable for pimping tragic and horrific mass murder incidents.
Fact is, just as with gun ownership of the second amendment brings with it personal responsibilities. Just as the free speech and the freedom of the press of the first amendment, also brings personal responsibilities and with responsibilities come accountability. Holding irresponsible people accountable does not allow for removing Constitutional rights and freedoms form the citizens.
Thanks … R.S. Helms

Part two, will be on the prevention of mass murder.

Pimping the Kids of Parkland

Gotcha: Now We Know Who’s Really Behind the “Parkland Students” and It’s Bad

This was reposted from a Joe Sanders article of Conservative Tribune 2-2-2018

By Joe Saunders March 2, 2018 at 12:04pm

It’s the kind of manipulation that could make a Clinton blush.

In the wake of the Parkland, Florida, school massacre on Feb. 14, the full range of left-wing groups that have been whipping up American politics since Donald J. Trump won the presidency in 2016 have found a new public face for their movement to take away the liberties of American citizens guaranteed by the Second Amendment.

And they’re hoping average American voters never look behind the curtains to see who’s really directing the action.

On television screens and in newspaper columns, the photogenic teenagers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas make for sympathetic spokesmen for the gun-grabbing cause – young, “innocent” survivors of an atrocity demanding action from the adult world to protect students in their school studies.

But according to a report from BuzzFeed, the real power behind the pathos is the unholy association of the leftist groups that have been trying to exploit every gun-related tragedy in recent years to push their progressive agenda.

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The latest propaganda project is dubbed “March for Our Lives.” And while it’s having some logistical problems (this Washington Post report is almost funny), it’s generally being played by the media as a “spontaneous” outburst of student-led activism to promote gun safety through demonstrations planned across the country.

But as BuzzFeed reports, it’s really all the usual suspects getting involved, with the unassailable front of crying children as their public cover.

“In the days after the shooting in Parkland, Florida, that killed 17 people, the teenage survivors of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School were impossible to ignore. They blanketed cable news coverage, built a massive following on social media, and began to organize a rally in the country’s capital in support of gun reform,” BuzzFeed reported.

“Since then, major players and organizations — including Everytown, Giffords, Move On, Planned Parenthood, and the Women’s March LA — told BuzzFeed News they are helping the students with logistics, strategy, and planning for next month’s March for Our Lives rally and beyond. Much of the specific resources the groups are providing to the Parkland students remains unclear — as is the full list of supporting organizations — but there are broad outlines.”so agree to our

Every conservative who follows the news is aware of these organizations. It’s worth remembering, though, that they all traffic in lies as a routine way of doing business. Using the willing children of Parkland – the temptation of instant-celebrity is tough to resist – is just their latest tactic.

Everytown for Gun Safety, for instance, is the Michael Bloomberg-funded group that promotes the lie that school shootings are rampant in the country. (Even the liberal Washington Post has called out the group out for its ludicrous statistics.)

Giffords is the group headed by former Rep. Gabby Giffords, the Arizona Democrat whose shooting in 2011 by a deranged man led to liberals like The New York Times editorial board to falsely blame Republicans like former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for allegedly advocating the murder of political opponents.

Now, their latest trick is to try to convince the American public – with the connivance of the anti-gun mainstream media – that the students of Parkland who are suddenly omnipresent in American political culture symbolize a grassroots movement.

Even USA Today, as liberal a voice as the mainstream media can offer, reported the truth of the matter in an article headlined “Gun-control groups team with students to turn Parkland shooting anguish into activism.”

“But, alongside those efforts, well-financed national groups are working to provide logistical and financial support to help turn that outrage into a sustained effort to rein in access to the nation’s deadliest guns. They also are hoping to transform that teen anger into votes that could shape November’s midterm elections for Congress.”

But in mainstream media style, the article downplayed the importance of the thrust of the report.

Gun control groups are partnering with the students of Parkland the way Bill Clinton partnered with Monica Lewinsky. There’s no doubt Lewinsky was a willing participant, but the chief manipulator – and benefactor – of their encounters was William Jefferson Clinton, not the White House intern whose main reward was a stained dress and a lifetime of notoriety. (Guess what the first line of her obituary will say?)

According to the BuzzFeed report, the gun control groups say they’re “helping to operationalize” the activities of Parkland students, and similarly inspired student groups planning anti-gun demonstrations across the country.

Bill Clinton helped “operationalize” Lewinsky’s visits to the White House, too.

It’s just that even if she was willing, it was his own ends that he had in mind.

But compared to the way these libs are politically pimping the Parkland kids, Clinton looks honest.

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